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romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked about a concern about veterans. even if he didn't say what he wanted to do about that concern. mr. romney, in fact,
romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan...
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mr. president, as president you're entitled to a plane and a house but not entitled to your own facts. and who was that guy with humor? who knew that mitt romney was funny. there were a couple of moments there where, particularly at beginning he said i'm sure you wanted --. melissa: spend your anniversary with me. that was a good one. >> yeah. but no, look the people got a real good sense who he was. that is what these deweights are like. in 1980, ronald reagan had been depicted as sort of a warmonger came across in the one debate with carter affable, thoughtful, able governor of a big state. you know what? he reassured me. a lot of that happened for mitt romney last night. particularly can you sense what is happening in the real world and economy i have to live in? people walked away last night, got a plan and knows what is going on. melissa: carl, we've got to jump. thank you so much for your analysis. >> you bet. thank you. melissa: even the democrats said the president's performance l
mr. president, as president you're entitled to a plane and a house but not entitled to your own facts. and who was that guy with humor? who knew that mitt romney was funny. there were a couple of moments there where, particularly at beginning he said i'm sure you wanted --. melissa: spend your anniversary with me. that was a good one. >> yeah. but no, look the people got a real good sense who he was. that is what these deweights are like. in 1980, ronald reagan had been depicted as sort...
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romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work to the president's favor. we'll be right back. >> thanks. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. >>> welcome back to "politicsnation." in just two hours, the two presidential candidates will debate their visions of america's future. i had the honor of addressing voters from a debate stage, too. back during my 2004 run for president. and while i lo
romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work...
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mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
mr. romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean...
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. >> governor romney! >> mr. president! >> look at the candidates smile. >> you also said that you are america's most tactless prince since carter. >> he smiled. they rarely show anger. they just keep smiling and laughing. >> thank you, thank you. >> don't get the impression that you aroused my anger. >> often they don't like the reporters. >> one can only be angry with those he respects. >> i bet mitt romney doesn't respect the reporters who followed him when he went to a memorial site. despite the somber nation of the moment, reporters shouted at him? >> do you feel your gaffes have overshadow your campaign? >> the candidates smile and repeat the message of the day. reporters feel as conduits for the message. >> their useless is what they can do to carry a message to the voters. outside of that they're useless. >> do you have a message of the day so we simple minded reporters don't get accused by too many messages? >> i would never call you simple-minded, but yes. >> to build that bridge to the 21st century. >> in 1996, b
. >> governor romney! >> mr. president! >> look at the candidates smile. >> you also said that you are america's most tactless prince since carter. >> he smiled. they rarely show anger. they just keep smiling and laughing. >> thank you, thank you. >> don't get the impression that you aroused my anger. >> often they don't like the reporters. >> one can only be angry with those he respects. >> i bet mitt romney doesn't respect the...
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. >> governor romney. >> mr. president. >> look at the candidate's smile. you know they must have questions like this. >> you also said you were america's most backless president since carter. >> he smiled. they rarely show anger. they keep smiling and laughing. >> thank you. thank you. >> don't get the impression you roused my anger. >> often they don't like the reporter. >> one can only be angry with those he respects. >> i bet mitt romney doesn't respect the reporters that followed him when he went to a memorial site. >> despite the somber nation of the moment they shouted questions at him. >> one of his aids told the reporters kiss my (bleep). but the candidates just smile and repeat the message of the day. consultant view reporters as conduits for their message. >> they can carry the message to the voters. >> you have a message in the day so that we spim miimple minded reporters don't get confused by too many messages? >> i would never call you simple minded. but yes. >> good old praise to the 19th century. >> bill clinton said build a bridge 22 times.
. >> governor romney. >> mr. president. >> look at the candidate's smile. you know they must have questions like this. >> you also said you were america's most backless president since carter. >> he smiled. they rarely show anger. they keep smiling and laughing. >> thank you. thank you. >> don't get the impression you roused my anger. >> often they don't like the reporter. >> one can only be angry with those he respects. >> i bet mitt...
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given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybo
given that mr. romney and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i...
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but go ahead, sir. >> romney: you bet. mr. president you are absolutely right with regards to 97% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. they are taxed at a lower rate. but those businesses happen to employee half -- half of all of the people who work in small business. those are the businesses that employ one quarter of all of the businesses in america. i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal tax, state tax, state income tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. that will cost jobs. my priority is jobs so what i do is bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions. create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to an balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money paying more taxes, that's by far the more efficient way to get this ba
but go ahead, sir. >> romney: you bet. mr. president you are absolutely right with regards to 97% of the businesses are not taxed at the 35% tax rate. they are taxed at a lower rate. but those businesses happen to employee half -- half of all of the people who work in small business. those are the businesses that employ one quarter of all of the businesses in america. i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he said he and his son...
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romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very eloquent and gifted speaker. >> i would have, bam. >> i have neve been in a presidential debate like this. >> let's get right to our panel now. we're joined by democratic strategist julian epstein, michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek" and the daily beast, and michael krouly who is "time's" washington bureau sheaf. allow me to read to you if i may part of a statement from beth myers. she says the president is a universally acclaimed public speaker. it's clear he will use his ample rhetorical gifts and debating experience to one end, attacking mitt romne
romney and mr. ryan. >> romney, ryan, romney, ryan. >> so that people don't get tired of her. >> when you go after my man -- >> stop it, this is hard. you want to try, it get in the ring. >> was i a little strong? >> never apologize for america. >> people will call my awful things every day. there are going to be bumps in the road. >> what's with the wily coyote nuclear bomb? >> 90 minute attack ad. >> president is obviously a very...
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president obama because he wants to invest hard earned dollars into green energy education i heard mr romney last night say you want two trillion dollars more for defense when we have war and gas and maybe he doesn't realize in warning that the good soldiers there is room good soldiers and troops is going to bankrupt bob country to keep going this way calmer and you've got a great show yeah thank you paul thank you very much and i appreciate your comments and your you're taking the time to call in tonight mary jo and for washington maryland and i should by by the way i should add you know the caller saying that he could only find us on one network. we're in over. over one hundred and fifty countries in over five hundred million homes and in the united states in between free speech t.v. in our t.v. in over fifty five million homes so we're out there. you can also watch us online mary jo fort washington maryland hey mary jo welcome to the program how you doing thank you very much for taking my call and i love your show thank you so much for the truth i accidentally stepped over the fox
president obama because he wants to invest hard earned dollars into green energy education i heard mr romney last night say you want two trillion dollars more for defense when we have war and gas and maybe he doesn't realize in warning that the good soldiers there is room good soldiers and troops is going to bankrupt bob country to keep going this way calmer and you've got a great show yeah thank you paul thank you very much and i appreciate your comments and your you're taking the time to call...
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a coin toss determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost, the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system had frozen up, and because of the resilience and determination of the american people, we've begun to fight our way back. over the last 30 months, we've seen 5 million jobs in the private sector created. the auto industry has come roaring back and housing has begun to rise. but we all know that we still have a lot of work to do. and so the question here tonight is not where we'
a coin toss determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality, a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. i want to wish you happy anniversary, and a year from now, we won't celebrate it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went...
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romney, you elected to go last. you have two minutes, mr. president. >> i want to thank you, and i want to thank gov. romney because this was a terrific debate. i want to thank the university of denver. four years ago we were going through a major crisis. yet, my faith in the american future is undiminished. the reason is because of its people. because of a woman i met in north carolina who decided at 55 to go back to school because she wanted to inspire her daughter and now she has a new job. because of a company in minnesota willing to give up salaries and perks for the executives to make sure they did not lay off workers during a recession. the auto workers that you need in toledo or detroit take such pride in building the best cars in the world not just because of a paycheck, but because it gives them a sense of pride that they are helping to build america. the question now is how do we build on the strengths? everything i have tried to do everything i am proposing for the next four years as far as improving education or developing ameri
romney, you elected to go last. you have two minutes, mr. president. >> i want to thank you, and i want to thank gov. romney because this was a terrific debate. i want to thank the university of denver. four years ago we were going through a major crisis. yet, my faith in the american future is undiminished. the reason is because of its people. because of a woman i met in north carolina who decided at 55 to go back to school because she wanted to inspire her daughter and now she has a new...
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romney and the moderator jim lehrer. this picture made the front page of the "new york times" today. so that is pretty cool. technicians were testing the debate hull during the stand-in and everything is working fine. and you can see the debate right here on cbs 5 starting at 6:00 tonight. >>> a tv news anchor stands up to bullying. >> still to come what she considers the learning moment after an email calls attention to her weight. >> but first, a rough day for hewlett-packard on wall street. when the silicon valley giant can expect a turnaround. >>> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow in the cbs 5 weather center. we have cooler temperatures on the way, fog not too far away. we'll talk about that coming up. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, in to turn the struggling tech company around. >>> hewlett-packard's ceo meg whitman expects earnings to fall in 2013 as she works to turn the struggling tech company around. she delivered the disappointing report to analysts and invests in san francisco today. hp is coming off its worst quarter ev
romney and the moderator jim lehrer. this picture made the front page of the "new york times" today. so that is pretty cool. technicians were testing the debate hull during the stand-in and everything is working fine. and you can see the debate right here on cbs 5 starting at 6:00 tonight. >>> a tv news anchor stands up to bullying. >> still to come what she considers the learning moment after an email calls attention to her weight. >> but first, a rough day for...
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switching back and forth without taking that out of the eyes it in every so so for you to think well mr romney out is something that is a under the fence around the world about you know all the guys i would disagree with you seem to say that the republican party has it doesn't have a core it's i would i would agree that romney appears not to have a core that doesn't seem to be politically that is he that isn't seemed to be a part of who were is but i will say what i will say that he's his running mate paul ryan really i think embodies the core of what the republican party is in tax cuts for billionaires about the beyond that i just don't see that's not that's not serious about you know analyzing what exactly paul ryan is talking about paul ryan's talking about reviving and keeping the whole the safe the social safety net that keeps us all together speaking we're speaking of spending in the social safety net all let's get into this the u.s. department of labor is out with a revised job numbers showing the president obama actually added nearly half a million more jobs as of march than we
switching back and forth without taking that out of the eyes it in every so so for you to think well mr romney out is something that is a under the fence around the world about you know all the guys i would disagree with you seem to say that the republican party has it doesn't have a core it's i would i would agree that romney appears not to have a core that doesn't seem to be politically that is he that isn't seemed to be a part of who were is but i will say what i will say that he's his...
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two minutes mr. president. >> well, jim, i want to thank you and i want to thank governor romney because i think this was a terrific debate and i very much appreciate it. and i want to thank the university of denver. you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. and the reason is because of its people. because of the woman i met in north carolina who decided at 55 to go back to school because she wanted to inspire her daughter and now has a job from that new training she's gotten. because a company in minnesota who was willing to give up salaries and perks for their executives to make sure they didn't lay off workers during a recession. the auto workers that you meet in toledo or detroit take such pride in building the best cars in the world not just because of a paycheck but because it gives them that sense of pride that they're helping to build america. and so the question now is how do we build on those streng
two minutes mr. president. >> well, jim, i want to thank you and i want to thank governor romney because i think this was a terrific debate and i very much appreciate it. and i want to thank the university of denver. you know, four years ago we were going through a major crisis. and yet my faith and confidence in the american future is undiminished. and the reason is because of its people. because of the woman i met in north carolina who decided at 55 to go back to school because she...
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mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics. here's running mate paul ryan just yesterday on fox news. >> there's been a traditional democrat and republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> chris wallace kept trying but came away empty-handed. he's not the only one. take a look. >> which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? which of the tax credits are you going to -- when are you going to be able to tel
mr. romney is close but still in negative territory at 49%. he enjoys an edge on handling the deficit and joblessness, but trails on virtually every other big issue, including medicare, taxes and foreign policy. keeping them honest, when it comes to some of those issues, both candidates have come up short either on specifics or credibility. issues like cutting taxes without ballooning the deficit or burdening the middle class. the romney campaign has been asked again and again for specifics....
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here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines. they have to be part of the fabric of the argument and part of the fabric of who the person is. when ronald reagan said, there you go again,
here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of...
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mr. romney came in with three things to accomplish. first, the polls showing him behind were in danger of becoming self-fulfilling prophesie prophesies. i think he probably stopped that in its tracks tonight. second, he wanted to use this forum to correct what he thinks are serious misrepresentations of him, regarding medicare and taxes and the scope of the tax cuts and the revenue neutrality and all of that. third, he wanted to make the philosophic statement. he knows this is a country in which self-identify conservatives outnumber independents to liberals two to one. he used this as an opportunity to say, do you believe government is the aloe kay or the of resources and opportunity or do you believe in the market? and i think most republicans are content to go to the country and say, let's vote on that. >> all right, george, great to have you joining us from washington tonight. let us go inside that room, because we've been saying, we didn't see a big moment, a moment that's going to play and play and play over the next few days but
mr. romney came in with three things to accomplish. first, the polls showing him behind were in danger of becoming self-fulfilling prophesie prophesies. i think he probably stopped that in its tracks tonight. second, he wanted to use this forum to correct what he thinks are serious misrepresentations of him, regarding medicare and taxes and the scope of the tax cuts and the revenue neutrality and all of that. third, he wanted to make the philosophic statement. he knows this is a country in...
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the president and mr. romney said to face often less than one week for the first presidential debate. both campaigns are downplaying the candid wiping of their opponents. how will these low expectations play out? with more on this, joined by ed rollins, republican strategist top boxes contributor. likewise, doing great, especially looking forward to this conversation. what is the strategy? >> you cannot play down the debate. the biggest thing left in his campaign. if you don't do well it does not matter whether you said you're not going to do well. you discord against. traditionally presidents don't do as well in debates. nobody basically stands up and makes points back-and-forth. sometimes they're hard to get going. this president is a good debater. my sense is he will be on his best. romney obviously became a very good debater. style versus substance. charismatic, a great debater. romney, livermore. also very strong in a primary debate, as you just alluded to, especially against gingrich. >> i'm sure ful
the president and mr. romney said to face often less than one week for the first presidential debate. both campaigns are downplaying the candid wiping of their opponents. how will these low expectations play out? with more on this, joined by ed rollins, republican strategist top boxes contributor. likewise, doing great, especially looking forward to this conversation. what is the strategy? >> you cannot play down the debate. the biggest thing left in his campaign. if you don't do well it...
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for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the election . it is electric. people were wait traffic was thick around that venu. i want to explain to everybody. we are monitor what the government is saying. he is getting cheers about remarks of repealing obama care. carl is on the job . campaign carl, we don't call him that for nothing. moving on now . and sticking with the economy. gas prices reaching an all-time high in one state. that plays in to the economy especially where people are seeing upards to five dollars a gallonon and a serve of deadly attacks. they are known as green on blue attacki
for mr. romney 12 million just since the debate. that is a vast amount of on line fund raise there is concern in the republican party that the big donor are making their money for the house and senate because mr. mitt romney had a tough go and well, in the wake of the debate uptake in big dollar donations for the romney campaign suggest they aleviated. there is a major phone bank and calling all over the country that type of grass roots is very, very important as we are 31 days from the...
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mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel this afternoon. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst karen finney, who is a democratic strategist. also julian epstein, who is a democratic strategist, and here in new york msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson. professor dyson, mitt romney's wife says she's concerned about his mental health. paul ryan says he's inarticulate. if he can't think straight and he can't speak properly, is mitt romney george bush in disguise? >> i'll tell what you. i want to give you the baseline, i don't ha
mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise....